Friday, June 23, 2006

The Carrot and Stick of Freedom

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We are spending billions of dollars and untold thousands of lives to "spread democracy" in the Middle East.

Right? I mean, that's what they said on TV, so it must be true.

In January the Palestinian people voted , in free and fair elections, to give Hamas a majority in Parliament. The voting was monitored by impartial international organizations and unlike here in America, it was an honest and democratic election.

So here is our answer to the people of Palestine:

The Senate voted Friday to block U.S. aid to the Hamas-led Palestinian government and ban contacts with Hamas until the organization renounces violence and recognizes Israel's right to exist.

The legislation, approved by voice vote, is similar to a bill the House passed last month but would give the president greater authority over the use of sanctions and is not as restrictive in cutting off assistance to non-governmental groups working in the West Bank and Gaza. The differences between the bills would have to be reconciled by House and Senate conferees before the legislation could be sent to the president.

The State Department had voiced concerns about the House bill, saying it was unneeded and constrains the president's flexibility in using sanctions. The administration classifies Hamas as a terrorist organization and has already cut off aid to the Palestinian Authority, under Hamas control since January elections.

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The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the largest pro-Israel lobbying group, gave its strong support to the Senate bill, just as it had to the House version. The Israel Policy Forum, which opposes the House bill, said it backed the Senate measure. "It allows the president more flexibility," said M.J. Rosenberg, the organization's director of policy. "If he has reason to use carrots rather than just a stick, under this bill he can do it.

Oh really?

Well, fuck you M.J. Rosenberg. Take your "carrot" and your "stick" and shove them up your ass.

These are free human beings who freely chose their leadership and it's beyond insulting for you to use that kind of analogy when speaking about democracy.

Democracy isn't about bribery or coercion. It isn't about sulking and pouting because the election didn't go your way.

And here's a news flash for you idiots in Washington: It's none of your fucking business who the Palestinians chose as their leaders. As a matter of fact, the entire Middle East is none of your fucking business. The oil will flow no matter what, there's too much money to be made for it not to. This, as usual, is about the thousand-pound gorilla in the room that no one wants to talk about.

Israel.

And their theft of Palestinian land, and their oppression of the Palestinian people.

And until you learn that and get your noses out of it, there will always be blood in the streets. Here and there.

It's about the voice and the will of the people.

And we wonder why they hate us.

10 Comments:

Anonymous Naomi said...

This is off-topic (and I sincerely apologize) but I couldn't find a "contact me" button.
If I came to the wrong place, let me know. If, however, you recently left a comment on martian.anthropologist, you're the one I'd like to send me an email. I was so impresses with your comment about "those who bow and those who don't..." If you know what I'm talking about, you might know me as the kinda militant atheist, Naomi.

Please send me an email at esfilitu@gmail.com as I really would like to open a dialogue with you.

Naomi

Sat Jun 24, 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poop! I can't get the hang of blogging on "blogger" so I'm reporting myself as "too stupid to own a computer". Look at what I did - sent comment twice!!!

Naomi (who's face is red)

Sat Jun 24, 12:16:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

I'm the one. Welcome to Thorn Tree, Naomi.

No apology necessary for being "off topic". Not a big fan of structure. Feel free to talk about whatever you want to here.

As far as Blogger goes, don't worry. No one can get the hang of it. You caught me on the way to bed so I will e-mail you tommorrow.

Once again, welcome.

Sat Jun 24, 12:37:00 AM  
Blogger Again said...

We are spending billions of dollars and untold thousands of lives to "spread democracy" in the Middle East.

just depends of what "democracy" means...

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" – Voltaire

becomes now:

I will defend to the death your right to say things, as long as it is the same as i do

or IOW:

democracy is your freedom to think, do and say, what i want you to think, do and say

Sat Jun 24, 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Robert: Exceptionally well put! And it definitely needed to be said. Hamas is indeed the duly, democratically elected parliamentary majority in Palestine, and with good reason -- it has been perhaps THE major force for "social welfare" (that is, rudimentary *survival*) in Palestine. While the US officially dubs it a mere "terrorist" organization, Hamas has a genuine history of *humanitarian* service, making sure the Palestinian people don't starve! Moreover, the professed "terrorist" rationalization doesn't cut it in the least when one considers how MANY obvious terrorists the US has actively recruited, trained, and financially supported when the goals of the two seemed complementary. That glaring hypocrisy, initiated at the end of the Second World War, continues right up to the present day with the US military's utilization of Iran's "expatriate" Mujahideen-e-Khalq [MEK] -- ALSO listed as a

Sat Jun 24, 09:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Nemo said...

Robert: Exceptionally well put! And it definitely needed to be said. Hamas is indeed the duly, democratically elected parliamentary majority in Palestine, and with good reason -- it has been perhaps THE major force for "social welfare" (that is, rudimentary *survival*) in Palestine. While the US officially dubs it a mere "terrorist" organization, Hamas has a genuine history of *humanitarian* service, making sure the Palestinian people don't starve! Moreover, the professed "terrorist" rationalization doesn't cut it in the least when one considers how MANY obvious terrorists the US has actively recruited, trained, and financially supported when the goals of the two seemed complementary. That glaring hypocrisy, initiated at the end of the Second World War, continues right up to the present day with the US military's utilization of Iran's "expatriate" Mujahideen-e-Khalq [MEK] -- ALSO listed as a terrorist group -- to assist US covert efforts to undermine the Iranian government. ==== "Humanitarian concerns" and rejection of "terrorism" seem astoundingly arbitrary factors when it comes to determining the alliances of this government . And the rubric of "spreading freedom and democracy" is utter horseshit -- pabulum intended only for public consumption, referring in earnest only to the *regime's* freedom to meddle relentlessly in the affairs of other peoples and install *its* choice of putative "democracy" to govern their country. ALL who oppose US imperial ambitions are labeled "terrorists"; all who ostensibly *support* that agenda are deemed "freedom fighters". But their tactics are utterly indistinguishable! Hence, Hezbollah is "bad", the MEK is "good". (Uh-HUH.) ==== Incidentally, it emerges that -- for all the inflated presidential rhetoric -- Israel is not in ANY way a US ally. The US has no defense treaty with Israel, and our overarching support of that nation's policies is quite frequently *diammetrically* at odds with our own (true) national interests. Besides, what has Israel ever done that was remotely to our benefit?? We supply exorbitant, utterly unnecessary US aid to Israel annually, without so much as a "string" attached. Yet we're now prepared to starve the Palestinians outright unless THEY "sing for their supper". It doesn't *get* much more hypocritical!

Sat Jun 24, 09:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Nemo said...

Argggh. [Nemo sighs, cursing the gremlins that seemingly possess Blogger's engine.]

Sat Jun 24, 09:10:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Un-teach-able

Sat Jun 24, 11:36:00 PM  
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