Saturday, June 03, 2006

Collateral

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From Reuters

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq vowed on Saturday to press on with its own probe into the deaths of civilians in a U.S. raid on the town of Ishaqi, rejecting the U.S. military's exoneration of its forces.
Adnan al-Kazimi, an aide to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, said the government would also demand an apology from the United States and compensation for the victims in several cases, including the alleged massacre in the town of Haditha last year.

"We have from more than one source that the Ishaqi killings were carried out under questionable circumstances. More than one child was killed. This report was not fair for the Iraqi people and the children who were killed," he told Reuters.

The U.S. military had issued a statement about Ishaqi saying allegations that U.S. troops "executed a family ... and then hid the alleged crimes by directing an air strike, are absolutely false"

It said troops had been fired on as they raided a house to arrest an al Qaeda suspect. They returned fire and called in air support, which destroyed the building, killing one militant and resulting in "up to nine collateral deaths".

I'VE HAD IT WITH THAT PARTICULAR BRAND OF BULLSHIT.

THOSE COLLATERAL DEATHS HAD NAMES. THEY WERE WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND THEY HAD HOPES AND DREAMS AND FEARS AND THEY JUST HAPPENED TO GET IN THE WAY OF THIS FUCKED UP OCCUPATION.

I'VE HAD WITH YOU COWARDLY MOTHERFUCKERS CALLING THE DEATHS OF CHILDREN "COLLATERAL DAMAGE".

THESE ARE PEOPLE, YOU ASSHOLES. HUMAN BEINGS, FRAGILE, PRECIOUS, AND IRREPLACEABLE.

SOMEONE WILL MOURN YOUR COLLATERAL DAMAGE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.

YOU DON'T REFER TO THE PEOPLE KILLED ON 9/11 AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE YOU PIECES OF SHIT. NO, BECAUSE THOSE WERE AMERICANS AND THEREFORE COUNTED MORE. GOD FORBID WE CALL THEM COLLATERAL DAMAGE.

I'M SICK OF THIS SHIT. I KNOW IT'S HARD TO WRITE ON YOUR REPORTS "MURDERED WOMEN AND CHILDREN " BUT GODDAMN HAVE SOME KIND OF DECENCY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE HUMANITY OF THESE PEOPLE.

COWARDLY FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT.


(cleansing breath)

That's been building for a while.

I feel better now.

P.S. It's a few hours later and I'm calmer. Reading over that raw rage is a bit diconcerting but it was a snapshot of how I felt at the moment. It may be profane and incomprehensible but It's honest. I'm just sick of it. I knew it was going on but the callous language of the military statement made nice Robert go away for a while. He's back now. Still disgusted, but calmer.

13 Comments:

Blogger Again said...

It may be profane and incomprehensible

NO

it's just neither profane nor incomprehensible

by a coincidence it happened to me that i did something similar today - raged about our culture, loving and adoring psychopaths, calling them "the Great" because they are "greatly" able to kill children and peaceful peasants and traders with trained professional soldiers - what a "great" strategy!!

who ever called Newton "the Great"? - the great Newton, yes, maybe, but Isaac Newton, the Great? Immanuel Kant, the Great? Albert Einstein, the Great?

no: Charles, the Great, the Saxon Slaughterer, Alexander, the Great, the man, who easily could kill his best friend...

no, Robert - neither profane nor incomprehensible, just not addicted to violence, torture and the behavior of chimps to eat members of your own species...

actually, in some enlightened phases of our history, we called that "human" to care for others and to use our brains...

Sun Jun 04, 08:16:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

Again,

I'm re-reading "The Demon-Haunted World" by Carl Sagan. I think you would love it. One of the chapters is entitled "Newton's Sleep" and it's about dark age of anti-science we seem to be sliding into.
I am a huge fan of Carl Sagan.To be so brilliant,he never seemed to become jaded by the attacks on common sense all around us. He maintained a child-like sense of wonder for science and exploration. Unfortunately I didn't appreciate his writing while he was alive, I would have liked to thank him.

You remind me of him.

Sun Jun 04, 10:43:00 AM  
Blogger Again said...

robert:
You remind me of him.

wow - what a great compliment. Actually, for some time you made be speechless (sure, only for some time, you know, i'm German and we discuss everything ;-) )...

He maintained a child-like sense of wonder for science and exploration

during that time of pondering there was this song of Queen in my mind (you know about my theory, how left and right brain communicate via songs ;-) )

The Show Must Go On...

Empty Spaces - what are we living for
Abandoned places - I guess we know the score
On and on, does anybody know what we are living for...


science and exploration - are the human fate, the human inner core, the only thing, which differs us from animals, the only way to go for us

the only way to go for us to survive - anything else means death, simple and easy to understand: D-E-A-T-H

sure, as child i adored Albert Einstein (and Winnetou, to be honest ;-) ) - but as soon as i have understood information, i was forced to understand human thinkings. The Ego? Just a precondition for high (multilevel-hierarchical) intelligence! The ancient myths of the divine fight of Good vs Evil - Light vs Darkness - Order vs Chaos? Just the struggle for survival - order aka information means foreseeability means good decisions means success in surviving - chaos means randomness means every outcome has the the same probability means no possibility to make rational decisions means anything goes - even the worst can happen and you can do NOTHING against it because you simply can't see it coming

Pure Reason - that's our goal, that's where the journey leads to since millions of years (btw. this seems to be an item why i disagree with Nietzsche and prefer Kant)

and since i estimated the gain-cost-function of intelligence, the conditions allowing life to be developed in a basically random universe, i found that each intelligent system, each information processing system has an apex where the development of more intelligence costs more than it returns (in predictability = better decisions) - stupid species have to offer more births to the "outcomes" of wrong decisions = lethal decisions, stupid species have to produce many more individuals then the number, which in the end will be able to reproduce themselves - and as long, as the production of those "unnecessary" individuals are not worth the price for intelligence, they will have to be "paid" by the species. It's that easy (actually, you can "measure" the IQ of a species by a simple birth/successfully_reproductive_adults ratio - btw: works even fine in human cultures)

this apex can only be overcome by some new "invention" to make the system more intelligent - the last invention of that kind was the language - and it makes the humans the dominant species on Earth

alas, information is process and information processing systems produce information or at least action themselves, changing therefore the world outside

and we, humans, did it so strongly, so powerful, that no grandmothers formula can help us - only the intelligent way of life can help us to survive the fast-changing environment we created (you know, the kind of environment, where stupidity doesn't work: "The consensus is that environmental variability is the key" - how wise! Just a simple consequence of the true nature of information and the universe):

only the intelligent way of life: to observe, to evaluate, to store and to remember, can help us to win the ancient struggle of Light vs Darkness, of Order vs Chaos, of Life vs Death

Mon Jun 05, 07:02:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

(btw. this seems to be an item why i disagree with Nietzsche and prefer Kant)

I'm a huge fan of Nietzsche, simply because his writing, in my opinion, shows a love and lust for life and freedom that has never been duplicated. He was, as he himself suggested, a man waaay ahead of his time.

This being said, there is much I disagree with him about. He didn't seem at all fond of democracy and he absolutely hated women.

Dear God how can you hate women?

Sure, they inspire deep confusion and profound friustration, but they are more than worth that :)

When I fist discovered Nietzsche not so long ago, I had trouble reconciling his absolute genius in some areas with his contempt for the "weak". Often I have wondered whether it was the spiritually weak he was speaking of or if he just despised all weakness out of hand.

It took me a while to digest his writings and be able to understand that while a world run on Nietzscheian principles would be one hell of an interesting place to live, it wouldn't be the most compassionate or comfortable world to live in.

I believe one of his questions was whether it was better for a civilization to perish in fire or sand. I'll take sand, after a nice, long, comfortable, democratic and compassionate existence. :)

Mon Jun 05, 10:16:00 PM  
Blogger Again said...

robert
he absolutely hated women

oh, i'm lenient with him here - because of 2 things: first, he couldn't stand the whole humankind and second, he always didn't like what he doesn't know

he - actually! - showed contempt for physics and Kant also, simply because he never was able to learn quantum physics or never read Kant himself, just some texts ABOUT him - and he never knew something about Emmy Noether or (as i learnt previously from Discovery Channel) Boticea - and never watched Xena or Buffy, btw ;-). He knew just the christian slavish breeding cattle you see around yourself, not much better than the BMO's of Saudi Arabia (Black Moving Objects aka Women in black Burgas) - and be honest, most of them TRULY fit with "But women aren't even shallow" - i guess, his contempt for the whole humankind has the same origin - the closed-minded christianity aroung him. And i guess, like them he needed someone to bear the guilt for each and everything (it's always good to have a scapegoat) and in christianity, that job is the job of the women - so look at a sick, not really successful male person unable for social contacts, but with a keen, sharp intellect, watching humankind from something like a distance. That's Nietzsche.

And even great minds can fail, when they have not enough information...

He didn't seem at all fond of democracy

the same story - if i could have told him how the basic rules of information shape the universe and how all that contradictions and conflicts could easily be explained by the simple fact, that the determinism (the basic philosophy of even our times) is not the whole, but only a part of the universe and actually the lesser part, and if i could have explained him the difference between efficiency and effectivity (if i could show him the "load-balancing" of networks e.g.) - he would have thought otherwise

he was sick and un-informed, but not stupid ;-)

I believe one of his questions was whether it was better for a civilization to perish in fire or sand. I'll take sand

i'll take the way to the stars ;-)

Tue Jun 06, 06:36:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

i'll take the way to the stars ;-)

Agreed. Wholeheartedly.

I had forgotten what a fan of Buffy you are. (sigh) I miss her.

I meant to ask you. Over there in civilization, do you have acess to the new Battlestar Galactica? I was a original series snob until a friend took pity on me as I moped around in the midst of the divorce and loaned me the first season on DVD. Having little else to do but ponder how long it would take to reach the ground from the top of tall buildings (kidding, sort of) I watched it.

Words can't describe how good that show is. You know how hard it is to explain to non-Buffy fans that it isn't about the demons and the magic but about the human experience in the midst of that?

Increase that by a hunderd-fold and you have BG. It's not about the space ships and killer robots, you often forget it's set in a fantasy world, it's about the last few humans trying to survive genocide and what that would actually be like. The characters are flawed, heroic and so real I swear I have to keep reminding myself these are actors.

If you can, check it out.

If you already have, don't you just want to run away with Sharon the Cylon?

I've only watched what's been released on DVD, so my knowlege of the show is limited to halfway through season two. Anyone who offers any spoilers beyond that will be thrown out the nearest airlock.

Tue Jun 06, 04:21:00 PM  
Blogger Again said...

robert
You know how hard it is to explain to non-Buffy fans that it isn't about the demons and the magic but about the human experience in the midst of that?

i never tried, don't want to risk my reputation as serious thinker ;-)

and yes, it is about human experience - especially Season 6, where "the Chosen" has to work in a Fast-Food-Restaurant and stinks like an old dog, only to earn some money to care for the house and family - i don't know many SF- and Fantasy-stories where the hero(ine) is both a loser AND a winner (you can't count the Comics because the heroes there did it for cover, not for alimentation)


Over there in civilization, do you have acess to the new Battlestar Galactica

sure - not to make you jealous, but actually it is currently aired on two different channels (pay-tv and free-tv)

but alas, i missed it - and the reason for that is exactly, what i called "the silent knowledge" about the New America. You know, the whole world once loved Hollywood and HBO, but more and more there are these comments: "too american, yet tolerable" - and then you know that the movie is all about heroes, heroes and heroes - always the same stuff of the bright, clever American defeating the dark, dumb Nazi/Towelhead/Russian/Communist and in the last time (trara!) the environmentalist AND (!!) lawyer (liberals, i guess) - always the same stuff of noise/guns/action without any true story beyond Comic-level

yes, there are exceptions - like the Bruckheimer Serials (where i watched previously Tarantinos very well hidden accusation against the situation in american prisons) or the Eastwood-movies or something like that, but i tend to be careful watching american products, don't want to waste my time with cheering for nonsense, for patriotism as "the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons." (Bertrand Russell)

Wed Jun 07, 03:12:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

If you can see it from the beginning, from the original mini-series, do yourself a favor and check it out. Trust me, it is the opposite of every mindless sci-fi shoot'em up you've ever seen. No clear-cut good and evil and sure as hell no easy answers.

Wed Jun 07, 07:36:00 PM  
Blogger Again said...

robert
Trust me, it is the opposite of every mindless sci-fi

you even made me curios - i looked for it yesterday ;-)

and because of the many re-airings we have here (movies and series "went" throug all channels) i only have to wait some time to catch the beginning - it would be nice to find a great serial again ;-)

Wed Jun 07, 11:48:00 PM  
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